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Reshuffle? State capture? Should Engineering speak out?


As we recover from last night’s shock of the 'Cabinet reshuffle’ by our President, Jacob Zuma, we have much to contemplate about the political, financial and social future of SA. The country lost more than R89bn when former Finance Minister Nhlanhla Nene was fired. When the news of the outing of Finance Minister, Pravin Gordhan, broke last night the rand weakened by 3%, from R12.80 to R13.35. With such murky waters further weakening and the potential need for rating downgrades looms - ANC anti-Zuma faction and other opposition parties intend on pursuing a vote for a motion of no confidence in President Zuma, who went against the advice of the senior ANC leaders, business, his allies in Cosatu, the SACP and investors. Has dictatorship begun? Are we waking to 'a worse version of our old country'?

SAICE has no political affiliations. We stand for transparency, integrity and advocate what is right for the people of SA. We want to know what your views are, how you perceive this effect on our industry and country. Should SAICE lend its voice to this matter… How?












Comments on this article

Louis Cheyne Says:

We need to do whatever we can and is practically possible to get rid of Jacob Zuma and his crooked cronies before SA suffers even more. Radical revolution is necessary if he does not step aside, as he will do what so ever is necessary to keep himself in the position.

Tasneem Says:

#1 Engineers must stop paying our ECSA fees until the high court rules on the capture of ECSA. #2 SAICE should align with Save SA - a non political movement and call for a national day of work stay away.

ravi Says:

It is a sad day for SA. We need competent uncorrupted people that control state funding. this will no doubt affect the industry on a number of fronts - from funding for govt projects, investor confident for SOE's that have to borrow for infrastructure projects. our voice as an organisation fighting for the industry should be heard.

Steph Hock Says:

Every South African who is not for Zuma's wholesale looting of the country needs to speak out and be counted. As South African tax payers we are all affected in our pockets. As a profession which is largely involved in supplying state infrastructure our profession is directly affected. It is therefore justifiable that SAICE lends its voice to the call for Zuma's resignation. Zuma can try to steal the state but he cannot steal our souls.

Tony Peralta Says:

Absolutely! Every South African should speak out against this madman to have him removed immediately. However I feel that this will accomplish nothing as usual, and Zuma will remain...it is what it is...

Peter Fischer Says:

Yes, SAICE must raise its voice. Not for the sake of SAICE, or its members, but in the name of infrastructure engineering that provides roads, water, sanitation etc and hence health and prosperity to all citizens and inhabitants of the country. The cabinet re-shuffle - and especially moving Gordhan out of the Treasury - appears to be misguided, selfish and a dictatorial act. The damage to the economy - for the second time - is TOO MUCH. As the economy suffers the fiscus reduces, and there isn't enough money to look after the existing services properly, let alone provide new services for the underprivileged. There needs to be a massive awakening of the people who have been silently watching and waiting in hope that things will somehow come right. It hasn't, and it won't. SAICE - please speak up for all of us!

Irvin Luker Says:

I suggest that a press release be issued, condemning the removal of a competent finance minister of unimpeached integrity and replacement by someone with less experience and of whom evidence has recently been published that he is under the corrupt influence of the Gupta family. This should be done quickly, on behalf of as many as possible of the institutions that are currently jointly engaged in legal action to protect the reputation of SA engineering.

Nico Strydom Says:

I think we as civil engineers needs to start voicing our concerns about the fact that unqualified individual becomes ministers of key portfolios that influences us directly such as the Ministers of Transport, Water and Public Works. This is the area that i think we should voice our disapproval

Mark Alexander Says:

For the sake of the poor and dispossessed of our country who need good governance and services, and whom we as civil engineers can greatly assist by our skills and knowlege, we need to speak out against this monstrous move!

Geoff Krige Says:

These latest political developments are a victory of corruption over integrity. They are a victory of power-mongering and self-serving greed over good governance. I think every citizen and every organization that wants good governance and integrity needs to find a voice. In the apartheid years SAICE was too silent - taking the view that it was an impartial, non-political organisation. Lets not make the same mistake again. How? We could start by writing a letter to the new Minister of Public Works, wishing him well and expressing our desire to work with him in integrity and transparency, aiming to serve the best interests of the nation and not just a select few. We could express our hope that he will not be persuaded to enter into any financially and environmentally disastrous nuclear power schemes. We could encourage him to ensure that the funds available to him are applied to building a national infrastructure of roads and schools and railways and hospitals, rather than fortified presidential palaces. For the Minister of Public Works the SAICE has to be an important institution, and he needs to know the strength of our views on these issues.

Marco Pauselli Says:

As citizens of South Africa, we have a right to ensure that our taxes are spent to uplift the entire country and not certain individuals. I would support a movement / motion of withholding our taxes and VAT until accountable leadership is in place.

Gerhard Vivier Says:

We should definitely be raising our objections as it is 100% against our objectives to create a better environment for all!!!!

MS Says:

It is high time that every South African (not only us engineers), who has an ounce of moral fibre in their being speak out against the atrocious manner in which this “President” is being allowed to rape and pillage our country for his own and those around him personal gain. I wholeheartedly support a SAICE initiative in this regard.

Ngula Kalili Says:

In a similar vein as the SACP and Pravin Gordhan himself, we as an institution need to voice our opposition to the wholesale changing of the guard at Treasury, and its ramifications. What we are seeing here are the continued political shenanigans of one man, that the political party that put him in that position is allowing to progressively get more grandiose, at the long term detriment of this once prosperous country. I do not believe that SAICE should get involved in national politics - at least not directly. However, as the citizenry of this Nation, we cannot idly sit by and watch politicians destroy what has been created since the demise of Thabo Mbeki.

deon van Tonder Says:

I believe the voice of the majority rational thinking people should be heard. If business and related bodies who make up the driving force of the economy is not heard and the select few rule we stand the chance that the radical few could easily capture foreground with serious consequences for the country especially business.

Harry Parolis Says:

I have already signed a petition in my personal capacity and believe as a body we should reject this irresponsible behaviour of a man who is not fit to be the President of our country and believe our association should do the same.. In the short to medium term these irrational actions must affect our industry with less investment in South Africa resulting in less work in the civil engineering industry.

Mike Munnik Says:

The SAICE is doing a sterling job in keeping engineering in the forefront of issues that affect society as a whole. Politics by definition affects everyone and thus it is imperative that the SAICE continues to play its role and lend its voice in holding government to account. The how is the more tricky bit - the ECSA court challenge was necessary as a last resort to attempt to resolve that issue. In this latest instance, I believe the SAICE should definitely raise its voice via public statements and supporting non politically affiliated movements sharing the same viewpoint. As a society, and as engineers, we cannot sit back idly when things in the country are done undemocratically and/or illegally.

JOHAN JORDAAN Says:

Trevor Manuel had a Civil Engineering background. I am also aware of civil engineering graduates making enormous successes in companies like KPMG, for their ability to model scenarios, think progressively and innovatively around projects related to the progress and success of all in South Africa. As you have already alluded, government officials at Departmental level need to be qualified professionals and have a working knowledge of the portfolio entrusted to them. They must not be politicians driving a political agenda, giving a semblance of service delivery veiling a culture of entitlement and need to be in power next year and the next, taking baby steps in progress to both make sure we never "arrive" and also to spend money where it does not benefit the intended beneficiaries. I may be short-sighted but I don't think we can shout much louder above the din currently in the media, and the actions being taken by say the DA and EFF, and others. Addressing Mr Zuma in some direct or indirect way would elicit no response, as he is acting against all advice currently and logic and righteousness are the victims. We should keep on doing what we do, with ethics, regard for each other and the law, the environment, progress and equality, in a way which is visible at ground level, thereby engendering a culture of honesty, hard work, professionalism, care and equality - to make sure there is government for the people by the people. Not saying we must be passive - we can use the normal channels and avenues to add our voice in solidarity, but in the longer term we have a very big boat to turn.

Jaco Brink Says:

Of course we should speak out! We should be much more involved in politics than what we currently are. We are problem solvers by training and experience. We can see inefficiency a mile away. We are innovative solution creators with a precise feeling for numbers and facts. We make informative decisions, and take calculated risks daily. We enrich the lives of communities with much needed infrastructure, while building a profitable business simultaneously. No other profession can make all of these claims. It is partially our fault the we got into this mess. We allowed lawyers, politicians and others with humanities qualifications to lead the country, shying away from the affairs that fund our projects and lives. Trevor Manuel, a civil technologist, did very well! Unfortunately he is our solitary representative. I applaud SAICE for leading the way with the battle with ECSA, who in a way has also been captured. SAICE should continue leading the way to bring analytical thinking to the political sphere.

Willem Botes Says:

Involved in infrastructure directly related to critical (life threatening) problems in communities (water and sanitation) and the ever increasing lack of funding to improve the live of the people in these communities is a tragedy. Any actions effecting the funds allocated to the improvement of the basic circumstances of these people must be critised and condemned. We experienced this in Zimbabwe, where conditions deteriorated to such an extend that you cannot describe it in words - over the past few years it seems that we are well on our way to these horrible scenarios.

Philip Marsh Says:

Big business and the major employer organisations need to start strategizing on impactful and collective action and not just banging drums to deaf ears. There are none so deaf as those who will not hear. Unprecedented, responsible and intelligently impactful mass action is needed on a scale that equals even the most impressive of the previous liberation stories. This is about the survival of South Africa for 50 million people - not the 500 fat cats on a genetically modified Gupta diet.

Ferdinand Says:

The decision caused the rand to weaken and will influence the civil engineering industry, thus the wealth off the nation, as infrastructure builds the wealth of our nation. As the saying goes "Wealth doesn't build our roads, roads build our wealth" We should call for Zuma's resignation.

Morris De Beer Says:

As a Civil Engineer (Research) with 40 years of experience, especially in road pavement infrastructure and associated technology, I am deeply concerned by the latest political developments. Removing a competent person at Ministerial level especially as the head of managing country finances without providing valid reasoning just blows the mind. This is another lesson in what I call “Afrocratism”, an umbrella for the Dictator/Chieftainship/Autocratic/Democratic dynamics capturing African states. It feels like the “ignorant autocratic inner-circle control and de-colonisation of things”, an exercise turning things to be much more expensive than actually needed, prevail, now for too long. We as professional civil engineers responsible for our countries’ road infrastructure, of which we have word class facilities at national and provincial spheres, deeply understand the intense interrelationships and critical paths of process needed in order to research, design, construct, refurbish and maintain infrastructure such as multi-lane highways, freeways, roads, bridges, rivers, dams, power stations, urban developments, vehicles, trains, airplanes, etc. In the context of these political developments in our beloved country, my plea is for common-sense, personal integrity, professional integrity and also wisdom. If Afrocratism is the answer, the outplay of the democratisation in our political and civil landscapes seem traumatic and problematic, turning for the worst, especially for the poor. Let we as Engineers also speak out to the so-called politicians and general civil society, showing what we really are and that is to serve all the people in South Africa to the best of our learned and given abilities, albeit mostly technical. Viva the “Built Environment”... Morris De Beer (Ph.D Civil Engineering)

Colin Johnston Says:

I think SAICE is well led and managed and is doing good work in its specialist field. How it should lend its voice to contribute effectively within the current political climate is difficult given that it every person and organisation has a duty to speak out against wrong doing of any sort. There are still many shortcomings in the fields in which engineers operate however and I suggest that contributions to change, political or otherwise, would be more effective if they are focused on our particular specialist ranges of expertise and knowledge. My thesis for Social Science Masters degree in 1999 had the title "Engineers are People" and examined the role of engineers in a developmental environment. The key was the title we are very much "people" and have made and continue to make a major contribution in society. Engineers are not specialists in understanding people, nor are they equipped to understand society, but their technical skills and responsibilities have put them in an authoritative position which demands holistic management.

Jaun Meyer Says:

As the state is by far our biggest client, we, not only as an industry, but as citizens, will be affected by the repercussions of any unwarranted and anterior decisions made by state. As a SAICE member, I vote yes, say something. Make it known that accepting work from a rogue, captured state goes against our principals for which we are hired. For we are a democracy, not a dictatorship. If South Africa fails, our industry fails and we and our children will pay the price. For chaos to reign, good men and women need only stand back and say nothing.

Pine Pienaar Says:

My input is to stay out of the matter of the appointment/firing of cabinet ministers. We need to focus on our core business which is the profession of civil engineering. If we cannot show that something affects our core business directly we should be very careful to become involved.

George Gerber Says:

I support SAICE in taking a stand in protecting the public interests, as well as those of civil engineers. Our president said that the reshuffle was for increased efficiency and effectiveness. It appears to be a false statement, when you look at the track records/twitter outbursts of some of these new ministers.

DENNIS CRESS Says:

I would certainly support a bold statement from SAICE placed in the local press on behalf of all the members. The main point would be the total upheaval to the economy that this political meddling causes and the knock on affect that this has to the development of the country’s infrastructure which is ultimately for the benefit of the whole population. The constant protests against the lack of service delivery is a very real barometer. A stagnant economy will just not solve our pressing problems. We need more jobs for all our population and infrastructure development is the quickest and most reliable way to stimulate the economy. So in summary please act quickly and decisively

Steve Says:

Chit chatting about the issues of the country from our safety nets will not do any of us any good whether we are service providers or recipients. So SAICE OUGHT to stand with other concerned citizens

Jac Wilsenach Says:

All members of society and civil organisations should now unite to voice their disgust in the actions of ineptness and corruption of Jacob Zuma, who clearly does not govern the state, but is working on machinations for his own benefit. SAICE as representative of the civil engineers, who has played, and must continue to play a grand role in the development of South Africa, has no option but to join the growing civilian mass movement, including the Save South Africa campaign, the Nelson Mandela Foundation, the Ahmed Kathrada Foundation and more, with the aim of causing Jacob Zuma to be removed peacefully from his position as president of the country, which he can no longer occupy in the light of a severe breach of trust. In doing so, SAICE must gather the support of other technical and professional organisations and institutions.

Frans Ferreira Says:

Joining the SAVE SOUTH AFRICA campain might be a good starting point. But more importantly is the present impasse at ECSA where I smell some political conduct eating at our professional status in the name of BEE, since December 2016 no Candidate Engineer has registered and our International Standing is at steak. Unfortunately our profession is heavily reliant on state spending.

Colin Wynne Says:

As a body the Civil Engineers of this country should stand up and tell President Zuma and his cronies, as well as the members of th ANC in parliament who can vote him out of office, that enough is enough and we cannot stand by and see our future and that of the entire country sacrificed for the benefit of a few. Maybe a suitable letter addressed to all MP's

Phillip Pratt Says:

It is absolutely clear that public sentiment from all sectors is against Zuma's actions. He should be sitting in jail and it is unbelievable that he continues to act as a dictator.

George Small Says:

Yes. As an institution with no political ties SAICE must raise it's voice insofar as this mismanagement and corruption affects service delivery to the nation. We must endeavor to reach a stage where Engineering Departments in Local Authorities and at national level are nor affected by the political parties elected. We must also at all cost protect irrational representation in ECSA based on numbers.

Richard Robertson Says:

All organisations like SAICE should be voicing their disapproval of what Zuma is up to. As engineers we need to fight for our country and for our profession. Every concerned South African also needs to fight this destruction of our country by some greedy individuals who, blatantly, want to take as much as they can without concern for anyone else. Individuals objecting is one thing, but organisations getting together and co-ordinating mass objections is much more powerful.

Andrew Tanner Says:

We must continue and with increased vigour, speak up for everything that all the Built Environment Professions stand for and , as in Mangalin Pillays' Sunday times article on 26th March, on ECSA, strongly emphasis the importance of competent Ministers and departments at National Finance, Public Works,Transport, Water and Sanitation etc. and equally competent members of the Boards of the Infrastructure SOE's , TCTA, SANRAL etc. They are critical for all the Governments stated objectives of Job creation, transformation and infrastructure development . If the national Development Plan is ever to be implemented , these are critical for success. Use every forum and legal process we have. All professionals must maintain their own ethical standards and not be party to any doubtful processes, notwithstanding the personal financial impacts. If we united, the unethical process may, slowly, dry up. While we participate in doubtful tender processes we are perpetuating the system.

AF Lambrechts Says:

The President should be replaced by a competent persona that can lead and guide the country with trust, responsibility and accountability.

JOLANDA BURGGRAAF Says:

YES I feel every element of our lives should speak out against the latest development - professional and social. Daily Maverick is a good medium as well as a response in our own publication. Perhaps the same question of HOW? can be made to the other institutions eg. SAACE etc for a type of professional forum giving a formal response from a technical profession viewpoint. Maybe even a petition demanding reform also through all our associated professional institutes???

Thami Mthimkhulu Says:

President Zuma excercised his constitutional right by removing and appointing ministers, who are we to tell him his decisions was wrong?

Mike Muller Says:

We need to make sure that the wider community understands the issues. Amongst the most important, South Africa needs professionally qualified and registered engineers to ensure that:- 1. The infrastructure that we build is safe, works properly, and lasts for many years 2. The cost of the good infrastructure is kept low so we can afford to build more and maintain what we have properly. 3. South Africans and South African companies can work and do business in other countries to create jobs and make our economy stronger. If we fail to address these point, people will think that we are just protecting ourselves and our incomes and preventing new entrants from sharing the available business.

Yunus Ballim Says:

Parliamentary politics increases in importance as social institutions lose sight of their role in defense of democracy. Wherever citizens gather in the public sphere in organised formations to turn hands and minds to matters of shared concern - there democracy is being defended - the judiciary, responsible media, universities, SAICE .... across to the religious organisation meeting at the bottom of the street. We write our rules to defend against the worst of human behaviour and are thankful when we get good people in authority. But our rules can only be applied when social institutions are strong. The bizarre imagination of a pre-election Trump and the tempered reality of a post-election Trump is a useful example. Zimbabwe offers a useful counter-example. That said .... My sense is that the break-in and theft at the Constitutional Court is a far more serious threat to democracy than changing of the Minister of Finance. As is the sustained attacks on institutional values at universities; the repeated patterns of patronage (of which Civil Engineering organisations are often found as undeserving beneficiaries); dysfunctional service delivery by a bureaucracy that is unreasonably politicised ... Here is the stuff that explains why one-in-ten of the children who died in the Northern Cape in 2015, died of starvation (STATS-SA figures). The idea that the wealthy buy themselves out of dysfunctional social institutions (private health care, schooling, security, etc) - rather than put effort, including protest effort, into fixing these institutions feeds into the narrative that the role of the State is to attend to the poor and not interfere with the wealthy. I worry that a call for SAICE to raise its voice of protest on the cabinet reshuffle sounds too much like a complaint against interference by the state in the fortunes of the wealthy. That SAICE's voice has not been consistently loud on the dysfunctional nature of social institutions is a problem. Of course, on its own, this is not an argument for being quiet on the matter of the removal of Pravin Gordhan. But there is another argument that call for us to be cautious in our protest: in this current matter, it is not possible to untangle the party political issues for the State issues. A voice of protest will inevitably sound like SAICE taking a partisan position in the factional battle within the ruling party. We do not expect our ministers to be technically competent in their portfolios. The individual in the portfolio is therefore not a principle concern. Mine is a note of caution - that SAICE not be seen to be dabbling in party politics but also that SAICE be more strongly seen as an organisation that is unhesitant in raising its voice in defense of social institutions. I hope this is useful

Guy Perrins Says:

Dear all I think that enough has been said and now is the time for action by the business community at large, including the engineering profession. My advocacy would be the following: • Open support for public and civil organizations against this malady • Issue of a memorandum signed by all relevant CEO’s and MD’s representing our profession / institutions including engineering consulting practices, to relevant parties and organizations giving support to and demanding a corrupt free, democratic and open society. • Giving support to peaceful protests. • Giving support to shutting SA business down as part of the organized protest actions. This means shutting down our own businesses as well. • Giving additional support to upliftment in SA. • Would also like to see withholding of tax revenues to put pressure on the government. Guy Perrins PR Eng.

Jane Mqamelo Says:

Yes, SAICE SHOULD make its voice heard on this matter. Zuma's latest actions call for a corporate and institutional response, and the business and professional world is duty-bound to speak up. It should not be up to South Africans acting in their personal capacity only, as this has far less power than when corporates speak. After Manglin's excellent interview in the Business Times two weeks ago, a united SAICE voice on this matter will have great resonance and be an excellent follow up to the interview.There have already been calls for corporate South Africa to speak up. Moreover, Zuma's latest actions really have united (rather than divided) South Africans, except for the mad mad and self-interested handful who will always support him regardless. Speaking up in this case will not be "political"; it will be common sense. Jane Mqamelo

Jane Mqamelo Says:

Yes, SAICE SHOULD make its voice heard on this matter. Zuma's latest actions call for a corporate and institutional response, and the business and professional world is duty-bound to speak up. It should not be up to South Africans acting in their personal capacity only, as this has far less power than when corporates speak. After Manglin's excellent interview in the Business Times two weeks ago, a united SAICE voice on this matter will have great resonance and be an excellent follow up to the interview.There have already been calls for corporate South Africa to speak up. Moreover, Zuma's latest actions really have united (rather than divided) South Africans, except for the mad mad and self-interested handful who will always support him regardless. Speaking up in this case will not be "political"; it will be common sense. Jane Mqamelo

Peter Labrum Says:

As Professional Engineers we are expected to uphold high ethical standards. How can we not object to the unethical corrupt practices of our country's current leaders. "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." We should make it known that the current situation is unacceptable.

Tom Donaldson Says:

It's Quite Simple - We MUST ALL Speak Out against this president or there will be NO Country Left. Lets ALL Get Off the Fence!!!!

Des Fourie Says:

Our professional responsibility is to exercise integrity. This therefore requires us to speak up against misconduct that results in the suffering of the people who have no power to protect themselves and whom we serve.

David Spooner Says:

Enough! And no more!

Ivor Palmer Says:

In my opinion any sensible voices raised against the actions of President Zuma are worthwhile. Perhaps you could ballot for a one day stoppage of work by all Civil Engineers in this country. I would definitely vote in favour.

John Holliday Says:

I fully support any statement or any action that SAICE can take to show their, and our, disappointment and dissatisfaction with what Zuma and his accomplices have done and continue to do. I also encourage all other statutory and professional associations/organizations to do likewise - we all need to pull together on this. This is not about race or politics -it's about us as fellow South Africans and about our country and its future. As members of SAICE we are engineers & technologists but we are also SA citizens - we need to speak out under both roles. Zuma is a civil servant, he works for us, not we for him - he HAS to keep the interests of the country his priority - not his own interests. I find it incredible that parliamentary law/procedure, or whatever it's called, can allow one person to have the power to destabilize the country - this has to change.

Annet Vermaak Says:

I think SAICE should speak up. The "how" I am not sure about. I think follow the NIKE principle - "just do it", but don't do nothing

Helmuth Luttig Says:

Zuma must step down.

Hannes Kotze Says:

Zuma should be removed. How can we progress when the president of SA is so corrupt? He think he is above the law! SAICE,ECSA and CESA should make a stand and speak out! ZUMA MUST FALL !!!

James Richards Says:

The issues that you speak about have a major impact on each one of us as citizens of South Africa, both at home and in the workplace. However, they are also very much to do with the government of our country, which is the responsibility of the elected government and is not the purview of the SAICE. While it is the responsibility of each one of us to respond as citizens to the abuse of power, corruption, criminality etc., that is not the responsibility of SAICE as an apolitical professional organization, whose reputation as such would be negatively impacted, if you took part in the political arena along with the rest. in the long term, that would have a negative impact on us as engineers whose focus must be the advancement of engineering in service and to the benefit of the community irrespective of who is in power or what they do.

Peter Townshend Says:

this will lead to definite downgrade, leading to less capital works being designed. there will be retrenchments of technical staff as well as a degrading of our Pr Eng qualification. We will see an exodus of engineers from SA, never to return . Engineering firms must now focus on work outside of SA. My personal view...we will not change ANC lead parliament due to numbers and entitlement/corruption. We now need to start a tax revolt for them to understand who generates the wealth that they so easily squander.

Jasper J Says:

Zuma must step down. Zuma and his clan is ruining South Africa. He must be removed and Pravin Gordhan be reinstated. If this madness carr

Mukovhe Says:

Zuma should have been gone long ago. However the politicians are making it difficult for the country to replace him. We may have to forget which political party says what as they are only interested in popularity advancement. Zuma is very stubborn and can only leave the office if ANC neutralize his inner circle. We need to get this message to the people who put him there

Kibiti Ntshumaelo Says:

Dear CEO, I was shocked to have seen what was resolved through this poll. I was dismayed that whilst you have articulated that SAICE is apolitical. even your statement to begin with has political undertones therefore not apolitical. the basis of the poll is therefore not objective. I saw what happened last week and that the members of SAICE were encouraged to take to the streets I their t-shirts and the like. We come far to be here!!We are setting a very wrong precedence in this thin line between being political or apolitical. I have seen comments from the members of the SAICE which in the main represented a very narrow view narrative on the matter. I guess,it is on this babsis that SAICE resolved to take to the street. I have noted the political utterances from members. I was dismayed and I say, NOT in My NAME!!!. SAICE has to remain apolitical no matter how difficult the challenges are. SAICE must use the channel it has with the AUTHORITIES to foster dialogue and engagements to have our views and concerns heard. I know I represent a minority view on this matter and I accept that but in the main the SAICE must remain focused in sorting out issues for its members. I was also reminded that SAICE is a voluntary association. Coming from the AGM of SABTACO which is also a voluntary body, I was encouraged that the reasons why SABTOACO was formed are still relevant today!!. I hold both memberships. I had tried to secure a meeting with the CEO and the PRESIDENT of SAICE before the TRANSPORTATION visit by the CEO of SANRAL but I was told both are not available. I wanted to engage constructively on this issue.


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